Tabloid press

[Richard]

cbe, no sidetrack, it's about the tabloid press, starting with child exploitation and the dangers of the tabloid reporting thereof...
You want to keep the debate to Corbyn alone? I don't see what is to be gained.
We have heard plenty already about how he has views that the tabloid press love to present as reasons for disliking the character. That doesn't bother me as he is now out of the running.

[cbe]

Talk about anything at all - I just didn't want us to be talking about Corbyn and then have some sidetracks a'la Colin. that is all.

[Richard]

The tabloid Press know that bad news sells because it is a departure from the smooth running of everyday life.
A huge increase in cases of reported child sex abuse draws attention - why, and who to blame?
Prince Andrew attracted to the company of a paedophile is a sensational item, does it matter?
Corbyn's support for terrorists - he doesn't make a secret of this and he hasn't been imprisoned.

[cbe]

Correct as regards Corbyn, but to go back to the start of another thread -
-it is because he is who he is and says what he says and supports who he supports
that he could never conceivably have got anywhere near 10 Downing Street. The
party hierarchy must have known this and that suggests they are interested only in
a 'pure' Socialist agenda rather than the chance of attaining power.

[Richard]

It is true that the naive belief in the unique political virtue of the Labour party consistently prevents it from developing creative political strategies. Decade after decade, Labour has pursued no other course than that of doggedly trying to win electoral majorities, under circumstances that are obviously unfavourable to that objective.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ism-corbyn

[ColinL]

No sidetracks from me cbe, unless you can see something that no one else can. You claimed 'red herrings', yet failed entirely to identify what particular thing in your view constituted use of that description.

So specifically please identify the alleged red herrings and side tracks you erroneously believe to exist in this particular thread.

Richard I specifically started and named this thread 'tabloid press,' not about child exploitation. It happened that a story fitted in to the method that which they are prepared to directly or indirectly mislead, create false facts in order to feed existing prejudice and thus stoke to existing views of those who like to read such rubbish and then claim it is true, merely because it has been published.

Cbe attempted their own side track by citing pictures, the existence of which has never been disputed, thus protecting the 'truth ' of their adored gutter press. They also throw in many ooooooos as if that is an acceptable form of debate

[cbe]

Hi Colin

[Richard]

I read the first post by ColinL. as an attempt to indicate that issues such as child exploitation were cited to reinforce the idea that the Press first expose wrong-doing and yet in their zeal may later manage to finger the wrong person. The Press acted because the Police did nothing, in their eyes.
The Police are quite capable of acting very quickly if they wish to but in many cases hold back for any number of reasons, more to do with chances of successful prosecution, priorities and leadership, than lack of resources.
Like the NHS there will always be a lack of resources and culture of covering up for mistakes.
There have been many instances of wrong-doing by the Press, or mistakes being made because nobody else seems able or willing to tackle the issues.
So, I don't entirely blame the Press.

[ColinL]

Quite typically, cbe has nothing to add to a serious issue of debate, that of the wilful bias of British tabloid press (As far as I am aware the similar European tabloid do not engage in the same type of journalism)

In the absence of anything to say, they finger the person who wishes to expose wrong doing, rather than the wrong doer. They cannot accept that anyone can have a contrary view to their old fashioned prejudice

Richard, of course the press are not always wrong but they definitely go out of their way to fabiricate, to distort the truth and hunt down those whom they don't like - despite the obvious devastation they cause to individuals by the nature of their activities. The phone hacking of Millie Dowlers phone gave false hope to her parents that she was alive, is just one other example of gutter action. The whole gamut of wrong doing is plain to see, although cbe , refuses to look as it exposes their prejudice.

There is one other example where, as I have said the press is not always wrong. It is a motivation that I have never fathomed, and that is the Daily Mail publishing photos of the men involved in the murder of Stephen Lawrence and labelling them as murderers. It was very strange.

Cbe the 'cloud' is you, just a lot of air and moisture but little substance. It strikes me as very sad that you can be so consumed with issues yet are unable to articulate yourself as an adult.

[cbe]

Poor old Colin. It is not a matter of not being able/willing to articulate myself, more a matter of realising after a month or three that it is pointless dealing with you as you are so stuck in your Socialist bubble that nothing, nothing anyone else says matters.
I will just make the one point - you do not know anyone at all with less respect for our MSM than I have. If the MSM tell me that today is Wednesday - I check the calendar. The print media and the UK broadcast media in this country are a very big part of the problem.
Goodbye Colin (unless you are in Hastings in the first half of September).